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financially, the college was always on life support. Even the Drumm narrative at the link admits that much just as it concedes that they really did make some bad hiring decisions. The archbishops statement was read at All Saints Masses the weekend of Nov. 9-10. Faith is a gift. If the Holy Ghost impressed them, that means He is always ready to stir up their consequences a renewed and invigored faith, courage to tackle the obstacles that challenge its practice, be it in our own soul or in the world, for the love of God and neighbor in the imitation of Christ. Dear Scott, Regarding group #5, you said 5th group SSPX RESISTENCE 2012/2013 these are mostly priests that belong to the SSPX. Listening to audio sancto raised much concern for me a long, long ago. We hold that the religion borne of VII is not the Catholic religion, but a non-Catholic Sect, of which Bergoglio is now the head. Hi, my2cents, Hello: I am a sedevacantist. Fort Wayne, IN Im also reminded of Dr.Taylor Marshalls involvement of Fisher More College and am still in the dark as to many of the details. Saguto was removed for violating rules about not being alone with a minor apparently. Presumably because (generally speaking) the FSSP priests avoid directly criticizing the dangers inherent in the new Mass and the Council (as Voris once did) as well as the words and deeds of the pope. The same priest asked me to purchase a picture of the Archbishop (Lefebvre) for the Rectory. Mr. Peter McShurley ('14), Rev. The clown Masses, the lack of faith on the part of leaders, the abuses, the watered-down catechesis, the lesbian nuns, the gay priests, the destruction of the Faith by religious orders, and on and on. The abandoning took place with the founding document ecclesia dei in 1988 and was made more clear in 2003 with the FSSP constitutions. **********Breaking News********** In our Catholic life they are usually priests and bishops and this is being done by many of them. The majority of sedes beleive the new mass invalid due to the new rites doubtful priestly ordinations possibly invalid and majority beleive episcopal consecreations in the new rite invalid. Why all the differences in opinion here ??. What I am not getting into is the subjective faith and morals of the Priests of the FSSP and the laymen who attend their parishes. In fact, there seems to be an unspoken standard for comparison about what constitutes a home: home is supposed to be a place of security, stability, and safety, a place where one found love and learned about life, was educated and allowed to mature, so as to engage and contribute well to the larger world outside it, and remained always a place one can return to for a needed respite. NEWS & ADVICE. I too have been heartbroken by M Voris recent rants against the SSPX and have diverted my financial support to Harvesting the Fruit. Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. Yet, he sticks with it like glue. Bishop Fabian Bruskewitz close friend of the FSSP and has does many ordinations for them excommunicated the SSPX in his diocese. This is the price for full communion, but the truth remains that all three of these things (the Novus Ordo, the Council and the shenanigans of the popes) represent a grave danger to souls. Denton, NE (Seminary) Go back to them. Novus Ordo Traditionalists That is the most Orwellian phrase I have ever heard. Even Pope St. Pius X refrained from making that kind of judgment against the modernists, even as he condemned them with great force in Pascendi. I, for one, have found so many polite & dear empathetic souls here on Mr. V.s site who treat me wth tender kindness even on my worst days, and would never even think of bringin up my myriad flaws & throw them in my face. Well, Im not basing what I say on Marshall I have good friends who were there, too, on staff (though their opinions and mine do not perfectly coincide on this affair, I should add). Fresno, CA Harrisburg, PA That said, no Catholic at any time ought ever to turn their back on another Catholic. Orlando, FL Dear DeMaria and my2cents, Father Wolfe FSSP is the Priest the sermon is linked at the end of this blog: rich, you bring up an important subject, if you will, when you mention the mans evasiveness regarding serious matters of Faith. hi, Servant of Our Lady, On its face, this isnt a difficult distinction to comprehend, but the reason so many find it difficult is very simple: As Catholics we are wired to follow our leaders, especially the pope, just as a child is wired to trust its mother. We are blessed to be able to host Fr. The rest would be for a forum. If I do, in fact, belong to an exclusive club, I would hope it would be as a Catholic faithful who adheres to the unchanging tenets of the Catholic Church as Christ established it. Oklahoma City, OK Im glad you agree that Fisher Mores story is so important. All of us have a duties as Catholics. This takes a toll on an aging trad & many times that is apparent. Father Gerard Saguto, F.S.S.P. All of these evils, in fact, are their responsibility. God love you! For these past years weve all been discussing how Pope Francis couldnt care less about dogma, doctrine, rules and rubrics. The SSPX is not under the jurisdiction of the local bishop thats why they are able to talk freely about the council and the heresy of modernism that is rampant in the church today. The reason I feel that way, my2cents, is because Ive held the position for decades, hence- bc of the timeframe-in my early years of mothering I met some of the original laity & priests who held the position (who BTW shall at this time remain nameless.) Little Rock, AR In a Nov. 15 statement, Archbishop Bernard Hebda said the recall of Father Gerard Saguto, FSSP, was taken in response to an issue that had surfaced in trauma counseling undertaken voluntarily by Father Saguto and brought by him to the attention of his superiors. (See above. Youngstown, OH. Another is the fallen-nature blindness that affects us all and inclines us to take for granted things that we are used to: be it a spouse, family, friends, health, employment, position, or other things. MEMORIALS. dear marian& all, 3littleshepherds1, Do you have any insight on this? The details of this local conflict arent important, but what is important to know is that Fr. Paul has been designing and carving ecclesiastical interiors for the past several years. FSSP Events I disagree with you, however, that the FSSP should be avoided. After being established, North American Martyrs Parish offered its Masses at St. Alphonsus Parish in the Ballard neighborhood of Seattle, with the exception of a single Low Mass every Sunday at Holyrood Cemetery in Shoreline. ********** Joseph Terra (hes the FSSP priest who was badly beaten in the attack in Phoenix that killed Fr. Most noteworthy here is his utterly preposterous assertion that the SSPX came about in response to some amorphous weakening of the Church.. Baptism and Confirmation have left an indelible mark on our souls that can never be erased, courtesy of the Holy Ghost, from which Christ identifies us as citizens of His Kingdom and belonging to Him. And for conversions we pray for, remember that among the Christian denominations there is only one Baptism it belongs to the Catholic Church so ask the Holy Ghost to stir up in them the courage to see where the blind spots are in their profession of faith. Id aleeady come across 1 of them a couple of years ago. To spread this kind of crap (totally unsubstantiated) around for thousands to read is sinful. These latest round of attacks is the fruit of Father Wolfes influence that is a manifestly provable fact. Sometimes we are trite, blunt, even silly. The heartfelt acknowledgment of potential loss is a sure-fire way of checking contempt and correcting things. I suggest you show more charity to Catholics. I hope those responsible both cleric and lay alike are made to pay for what they did there. Ottawa, ON Nada. Brookville, IN Or more likely, he is a talking head for an evil and destructive force. The Missive. Especially in light of the context in which hes stepping up his attack with the Pope extending a remarkable olive branch to Econe and disastrous developments in annulment law and the ominous maneuverings underway for the Synod Against the Family.. Immigrants featured in new Cathedral exhibit, Our Lord Jesus Christ, King of the Universe the Alpha and the Omega, Practicing Catholic host vividly recalls memories, emotions of midnight Mass 12 years ago, Awaken the Heart event March 4 offers chance for an authentic encounter with Christ, Making music, embracing Lent: in step with Caroline Metzinger. We are not just dealing with infighting we are dealing with Satanic attacks by false brethren and wolves in sheeps clothing. Not good enough for some here. Also, the cardinal mentioned Fr. these are mostly priests that *belonged* to the SSPX. I'm not there often just because of distance and time of day on my bike. Could you please provide a link or more information on the closing of Fisher More College and how it relates to Michael Voris? Only God can do that. I am only asking this question in the hope that you can shed some light on this kind of behavior. El Paso, TX Stay away. Voris goes into yet another rant about the SSPX being in schism that is so lacking in plausibility that even Karl Keating took to his own blog to criticize it! I have a certain admiration for Fr. Saguto, FSSP in the recording. Perhaps, I should chose my words more carefully. I will look at the link of this man who was dead. As one who was there for this sermon (and many more), and class, I firmly state that he has NEVER attacked the SSPX. Oklahoma City, OK The schismatic Orthodox bishops and priests are validly ordained too. NEWSPAPERS. Calgary, AB I thank God daily for them. Since the fruits got worse and worse he understood that he needed to protect souls and to warn them about the dangers to their Faith. First and foremost, however, one must be willing to take a good hard look at the conciliar texts and the new Mass and apply ones intellect as informed by faith. Minneapolis, MN UPDATE: Having just received a message from a friend on the ground, Im happy to clarify that Fr. Many Catholics, most Catholics, in fact, dont really know very much at all, if anything, about this group which has been around in one form or another since 1988, as one way of counting The Society came about in response, reaction to the overall weakening of the Church and many of Her leaders, which has been an ongoing process since the 1960s. It can happen from a negative event; that is, when someone or something becomes threatened in such a way that forces us to look at it with the attention it deserves. Iv read and listened to lots of different people speak against this devotion but it never changed my mind. It is a reaction to the dreadful years after the Second Vatican Council which is getting worse by the minute. It was simply too painful for many lay people to take. Gerard Saguto, FSSP and Fr. Seattle, WA New Priest Assignments Announced. If we know of loved ones who have wandered, ask the same for them, that they begin to sense the obvious need for the Church and the Sacraments, particularly Holy Communion and confession. Dear Louie, Francis called a protestant minister his brother bishopthe man has an entirely different concept of sacraments, sin, church, juristiction, etc. Im the same age as the Pope but even Fr. Hes been reassigned to be the parochial vicar at St. Joseph, the FSSP parish in Tyler, Texas. The objective truth isnt really all that difficult to see here with respect to the Councils standing in relation to the truths of the faith as they have always been taught. 4. These are the signs of an unstable mind. I used to think my family would grow out of it. The Bishop did not stop Nicholson. heh-heh, point taken! . In one such frame, a building that houses a ladder company is on fire, and as the employees look out from a third story window, the caption has them wishing how they could find a way to climb down. Objectively, absolutely nothing will change whatsoever, which brings me back to Fr. There are validly consecrated priests & bishops worldwide to shepherd & provide (valid-it must be noted,) Sacraments to the faithful by the thousands. Bergoglio [as he likes to call himself] doesnt understand Tradition. has his way, they just might get one: Fairy(see) Fellay! sedevacantists dont believe the chair of peter is vacant theres no different/various groups within the sedevacantist movement. ARCHDIOCESAN SYNOD 2022 You have some excellent points in your comments, but I agree with Mr. Matt on this one. Gerard Saguto, FSSP. Charity is not spelled luv. Dear DeMaria and my2cents, Most of the time unfortunately it falls into a type of group. (2) Re: courage or lack thereof of FSSP priests, funniest thing I ever saw was on the Remnant pic of priest all decked out in battle fatigues including bush hat w/the headline Will You (i.e. Thank you and God bless. To accuse the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peters members of be responsible for the break-up of marriages is scurrilous and reprehensible. I dont know what changed his mind regarding the SSPX, but whatever or whomever it is has him hooked good. Those of us who dont have a dog in the fight would rather read about something more important. As you say, hopefully someday he will be humble enough to admit his error. His temporal concerns; nothing more, nothing less. "I think today a lot of those devotions are missed," Father Stinson said. St. Catharines, ON 3rd group those that choose only to attend TLM except for funerals weddings etc. The leadership of the FSSP and the Bishop of Father Paul Nicholson need to do their duty. So does the Church. I suppose they have a natural virtue and would follow every rule even if they were protestants. I think it sometimes gives them scruples. Within that undertaking will be the discovery of where Catholicsm actually lives on, whole & entire, undefiled, untainted & immutable. I believe Bishop Morlino just issued a public apology to the SSPX also. His Vortexellency has no authority to make this subjective determination as to willful intent. More like battle weary at times while being good soldiers of Christ. But they didnt. Either way . Likewise he used to criticize the Council for its abject failures. john6 http://theradicalcatholic.blogspot.com/2015/09/vortex-of-plagiarism.html, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBjHH2Eg-vQ, http://iconicjesus.org/home/category/objections-to-divine-mercy-sunday/, http://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/fr.-john-emerson-fssp-on-his-break-from-the-sspx, http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f072_DivMercy.htm, http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/1973-new-from-remnant-tv-a-ceasefire-the-fssp-vs-the-sspx, https://akacatholic.com/providential-propers/#comments, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX75xiW2Z54, http://archives.sspx.org/archbishop_lefebvre/1974_declaration_of_archbishop_lefebvre.htm, http://callmejorgebergoglio.blogspot.com/2015/09/is-fsppx-going-to-celebrate-jubilee-of.html, http://www.catholicplanet.com/apparitions/false158.htm, Tradservative TLM Warriors: You have no leg, Conciliar Rome v Trad, Inc: Same product, Leaked FBI Document: More than meets the, WARNING: Vaccines Today, Hormone Blockers Tomorrow, St. Peter Damian Slays the German Synodal. The glad tidings of Christmas should be obvious to anyone who believes. I wouldnt be half surprised if he granted faculties to the Dali Lamma. Voris has so applied his intellect. We know where these attacks are coming from they are coming from the standard of Satan. Little Rock, AR First of all everything said about Fr. Voris then goes on to quote (without attribution) Fr. I give you credit. Gerard Saguto, FSSP and Fr. dear salvemur, Voris and Fisher more college are just the latest in a long line of horrors. This is a bit off topic, but are you aware of why Fr Flood is no longer in charge of the N American FSSP? He knows very well (as he and I had discussed in some detail on more than one occasion) that the SSPX came about as a very direct response to the errors of the Second Vatican Council and the deplorable theology of the Novus Ordo Missae. I have very good reasons for my feelings towards your beloved order. Houston, TX As dysfunctional as the Church can be in her human element and she is it is perfect love of Christ Crucified, our Eternal Contemporary as Ven. by Fr. Post navigation After ten years of pastoral service, he was appointed by Fr. That is why the status of the SSPX is, at this time, technically an internal matter. Once there is a formal declaration of schism, it changes the rules of engagement from an internal to an external matter. Voris, by contrast, runs every last word through a filter; avoiding anything that might conflict with more personal concerns; the likes of which well address a little later. Springdale, AR Dear john6, Support the FSSP Mission in Africa - Scapulars made by the parishioners of our FSSP Nigerian parish are available in the vestibule. Jeremy Palman. the requirement that adults not be alone with minors).. FSSP pastors are . Thats Mr. V.s job. 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